David Grimm, an online editor, dives into the curious self-perception of cats, investigating whether they really think of themselves as liquids. Hilarity ensues as he shares anecdotes about their impressive flexibility. Joining him, Ted Schultz, a research entomologist, discusses the incredible history of ant-fungus farming that emerged around 66 million years ago during ecological crises. This fascinating symbiosis reveals how ants adapted to survive by cultivating fungi, offering insights into non-human agricultural practices.

As a kid, Ariana Remmel had a hard time figuring out where they fit in. They found comfort in the certainty and understanding of what the world was made of: atoms and molecules and the periodic table of elements.Years later, Ari went on to become a chemist and science writer. On today's show, Ari talks with host Maddie Sofia about how chemistry has helped them embrace their mixed identities.For more, read Ari's recent essay in Catapult Magazine: https://catapult.co/stories/ariana-remmel-essay-mixed-identities-organic-chemistryLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy