Guests Ivo Daalder, a former US ambassador to NATO, Ari Shapiro, an NPR journalist, and Jessica Hayden, assistant sports editor at The Observer, dive into the complex dance between Trump and Putin. They explore the implications of recent sanctions on Russian oil and whether Trump's actions are geared toward winning a Nobel Prize. The conversation takes a turn as they examine the controversial demolition of the East Wing of the White House, with discussions around costs and what this might signal about presidential power. Additionally, they tackle troubling revelations about police misconduct in the UK.