In this discussion, Ari Marcos, CEO of Datalogy AI and former DeepMind researcher, teams up with Rob Toews, a partner at Radical Ventures. They explore whether AI model progress is truly slowing or merely shifting focus, and debate the economics of reinforcement learning environments. The duo also analyzes Google's rejuvenation with its Gemini project, the turbulent job market for AI talent, and the inflated valuations surrounding major players like OpenAI and Anthropic. Finally, they ponder the future of AI's integration with robotics and brain-computer interfaces.