
Antonio Pascual-Leone
Psychologist and author studying emotions and how people process the end of relationships; guest expert on breakups and grief in this episode.
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Oct 20, 2025 • 1h 20min
Love 2.0: How to Move On
Join psychologist Antonio Pascual-Leone, who specializes in emotions and the intricacies of breakups, as he shares insights on the common mistakes made during relationship endings. He discusses practical tools for processing grief, including lists, unsent letters, and the empty-chair technique. Cognitive scientist Phil Fernbach returns to explore the illusion of knowledge, explaining how overconfidence can mislead us about our understanding. Together, they tackle how narratives inform recovery and the importance of intellectual humility in navigating discussions.


