We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.(0:00) Preview of the debate(2:23) Sponsor(3:10) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI(5:45) Amjad’s take on the AI moment(8:03) Antonio's skepticism about transhumanism(9:10) Human tendencies color the debate about agency(11:25) The inflection point is a jump in generality(13:14) AI's effect on coding(16:57) Weakness in current models(19:18) Bounties and the future of work(21:48) Antonio's skepticism around bounties(25:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?(27:26) "All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years"(30:10) Who will be the biggest beneficiaries of this shift?(31:50) What AI companies should VCs invest in?(32:26) SponsorSPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKYShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitiveThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale. Twitter:@CogRev_Podcast@amasad (Amjad)@antoniogm (Antonio)@altimor (Flo)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@labenz (Nathan)Subscribe to our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/ Websites:cognitivervolution.aireplit.comteamflowhq.comomneky.com Show Notes & references:Eliezer Yudkowsky: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FKNtgZrGYwgsz3nHT/bankless-podcast-159-we-re-all-gonna-die-with-eliezerPaul Christiano: https://paulfchristiano.com/AI Feedback: https://www.anthropic.com/constitutional.pdfRECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. 

Dan Romero, Antonio Garcia Martinez, and Erik Torenberg discuss the US reaction to the Israel-Hamas War, including the contradictory stance of Westerners favoring Palestine over Israel. They also explore Egypt's relationship with Israel, fake images in the conflict, personal connections to Israel, the lack of historical knowledge among young individuals, and the influence of the United States on global affairs.

Antonio Garcia Martinez is back from his travels, and joins Dan Romero and Erik Torenberg to dive into his current theory of ‘The End of History’. They also discuss the cancellation of intellectual figures like Richard Hanania, contrast the political situation in Israel with political polarization in the states, and discuss liberalism vs. religion. Towards the end, they talk about social media, crypto, Elon vs Zuck, and Sam Bankman-Fried. We're proudly sponsored by Vanta. Get $1000 off Vanta with https://www.vanta.com/zenMoment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: www.turpentine.coTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Episode Preview(02:13) Elon Musk vs. Dustin Moskovitz(05:00) Decarceration in SF(07:53) What problems should we focus on for the biggest impact?(12:05) Waiting for Antonio and reflecting on his conversion(15:30) Moment of Zen: Who’s listening and why? (18:00) Behind the scenes at Turpentine network(19:43) Updates: Spindl and Antonio’s travels to France and Israel(21:27) Sponsors: Vanta | NetSuite(26:04) Mapping the left and the right in Israel vs in the US(34:15) End of history(37:10) Is Richard Hanania canceled?(39:50) The new Right(41:35) Liberalism LARPing(43:20) LindyMan(44:50) The movies(46:40) Why hasn’t there been new religions?(52:20) Christian vs Jewish narrative(56:08) Is Modernity a death cult?(57:10) How do we fix the birth rate?(01:04:40) Updates: Farcaster and Dan’s take on how we usher in a new era for social media(01:08:00) Crypto infrastructure companies(01:13:00) The underrated impact of Apple’s app store (01:15:10) What our interest in Elon Musk vs. Mark Zuckerberg at the Coliseum reveals about us(01:18:10) The story about SBF(01:20:00) Shkreli season (check out In The Arena)LINKS:Bruno Maçães, History Has Begun: https://www.amazon.com.au/History-Has-Begun-Bruno-Macaes/dp/1787383016Patrick Deneen, Why Liberalism Failed: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Liberalism-Failed-Politics-Culture/dp/0300223447Dara Horn, People Love Dead Jews: https://www.amazon.com/People-Love-Dead-Jews-Reports/dp/B09CFYVY3F/X:@antoniogm (Antonio)@dwr (Dan)@eriktorenberg (Erik)@MOZ_PodcastSPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | Vanta | NetSuiteHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months.SHOPIFY: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzenAre you building a business? If you’re looking for SOC 2, ISO 27001, GDPR or HIPAA compliance, head to Vanta. Achieving compliance can actually unlock major growth for your company and build customer loyalty. Vanta automates up to 90% of Compliance work, getting you audit-ready in weeks instead of months and saving 85% of associated costs. Moment of Zen listeners get $1000 off at www.vanta.com/zenNetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/ZEN and download your own customized KPI checklist.

Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) and Marshall Kosloff (@makosloff) of The Realignment (@therealignment) join Moment of Zen's Dan Romero (@dwr), Antonio Garcia Martinez (@antoniogm) and Erik Torenberg (@eriktorenberg) for a discussion on tech, politics, and media.We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.RECOMMENDED PODCAST:The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.https://link.chtbl.com/hrhereticsTIMESTAMPS:(00:00) Intro(03:00) Political and class realignments(15:35) Trump vs DeSantis(25:10) Future of both political parties(28:55) Would Saagar ever get involved in politics?(33:00) Differences between Silicon Valley and DC(36:20) There will never be another Trump(39:30) Media’s impact on politics(55:40) Antonio thinks we stopped recording and goes off(57:00) who the f*** is Chuck Todd?(58:10) How media is evolving SPONSORS: Beehiiv | Shopify | NetSuite | SecureframeHead to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 to https://Beehiiv.com and use code “MOZ” for 20% off your first three months-Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial periodShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen-NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen NetSuite provides financial software for all your business needs. More than thirty-six thousand companies have already upgraded to NetSuite, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen and defer payments of a FULL NetSuite implementation for six months.-Secureframe (www.secureframe.com)Secureframe is the leading all-in-one platform for security and privacy compliance. Get SOC-2 audit ready in weeks, not months. I believe in Secureframe so much that I invested in it, and I recommend it to all my portfolio companies. Sign up for a free demo and mention MOMENT OF ZEN during your demo to get 20% off your first year.

Discussion covers influence of social media on society, media literacy and journalism, political changes in views of social media, and rise of unique religious movements in activism. Exploring ethical norms in tech sector, impact of technology on journalism, and navigating fake news in media landscape. Revival of secular religions in digital age and observations on Starbucks inefficiencies and playful airport concept.