James Bopp Jr., the Indiana lawyer behind the Citizens United case, teams up with former Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, known for his pivotal swing votes. They delve into the strategies that reshaped campaign finance law, exposing the intricate legal maneuvers and historic influences at play. The discussion highlights the profound effects of Citizens United on democratic processes and the rise of dark money in politics. With insights into the ongoing debate on transparency and corporate influence, this conversation uncovers the complexities of modern electoral dynamics.

Former Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy reflects on his career and the complexities of being a swing vote in landmark cases like Roe v. Wade. He discusses the balance between First Amendment rights and political funding, urging voter awareness. Kennedy also emphasizes the importance of civil discourse in democracy, drawing on insights from Aristotle and Plato. He advocates for a judiciary committed to truth and justice, highlighting the need for integrity in legal proceedings.