Irvin Waller, an Emeritus professor of criminology at the University of Ottawa, and Anthony Doob, Emeritus professor at the University of Toronto, dive into pressing crime narratives. They discuss the controversial use of the notwithstanding clause by Pierre Poilievre for mandatory sentences, highlighting the tension between public safety and civil liberties. The experts critique ineffective political narratives and advocate for community-based strategies over pure incarceration, emphasizing the need for evidence-based discussions on crime reduction.