In this compelling conversation, Caroline Garcia Osborne shares her harrowing story of grooming and spiritual abuse by Boyd Miller, shedding light on the alarming realities within the Orthodox Presbyterian Church. An anonymous woman corroborates Caroline's account, illuminating the systemic failures of church leadership in addressing abuse allegations. The guests reflect on their emotional turmoil and the urgent need for reform, advocating for accountability, healing, and a supportive framework for survivors to reclaim their voices.