Surgeon Khaled Al-Sir, who endured detention and torture in Gaza, shares his harrowing experiences dealing with violent conflict while providing care. Annie Kelly, an editor at the Guardian focusing on rights issues, discusses the grim realities that healthcare workers face, including targeted attacks and a collapsing medical system. Their conversation highlights the emotional toll of war, legal protections for doctors, and the dire consequences for patients in a system on the brink. It’s a powerful examination of resilience amidst chaos.