Eva Corlett, The Guardian's New Zealand correspondent, and Annette Sykes, a prominent Māori lawyer and activist, dive into New Zealand's historic hikoi, where 42,000 rallied for Māori rights. They discuss the government's rollback of these rights and the urgent community response. The conversation highlights significant disparities faced by the Māori, critiques of current policies, and the importance of the Treaty of Waitangi. Together, they underscore the need for unity, cultural pride, and a reassessment of governmental relationships with Māori communities.