Jake Haendel, co-creator and survivor navigating a terminal disease, shares gripping insights into his health struggles and addiction. Joined by Anne Chappelle, a board-certified toxicologist, they explore a shocking theory on heroin use and potential poisoning. The conversation dives into the complexities of drug toxicity, the profound messages from recovery relationships, and the health risks faced by chefs. With humor and serious reflection, they unravel the intricate dynamics of health, illness, and personal connections in a deeply impactful discussion.