In a lively chat, guests Anna Wilkinson, a cognitive animal expert, Unnar Karl Aevarsson, a herpetologist from ZSL London Zoo, and Gordon Burghardt, a distinguished professor, dive into the surprising intellect of tortoises. They discuss tortoise personalities, memory, and even their capacity for play, challenging the notion that these creatures are dull. Anecdotes about tortoise behaviors and the importance of enrichment reveal how tortoises exhibit moods and recognize humans, reshaping our understanding of their cognitive abilities.