In this insightful conversation, Anna Shadrina, a sociology lecturer at the University of Liverpool, explores the 'Babushka Phenomenon' in post-Soviet Russia. She reveals how societal expectations shape grandmothers' roles as primary caregivers, often sacrificing their careers. Shadrina discusses the social construction of age, the invisibility of older women, and their struggles for political and economic recognition. The conversation also touches on class disparities, everyday life, and the complexities of older women's identities in contemporary society.