Anna Holligan, a contributor to an innovative project aimed at reducing smartphone dependence, dives into the rising concerns about smartphones impacting adults and children. She explores campaigns encouraging parents to delay their kids' first phone. The discussion reveals grassroots movements, like Movimiento Disconnector, fighting for smartphone-free childhoods. Holligan also shares insights from an Amsterdam initiative where people hand over phones for real-life engagement, showcasing the joys and challenges of disconnecting from technology while fostering genuine human connections.