Joe Barnes, Brussels Correspondent for The Telegraph, and Anna Conkling, a freelance journalist specializing in on-the-ground reporting from Ukraine, discuss President Zelensky's evolving stance on peace negotiations and NATO membership. They dive into the controversial tactics of Ukraine's mobilization police, highlighting the pressure young men face to enlist. The conversation also covers the broader implications of Ukraine's military developments and explores the human impact of the ongoing conflict through personal stories from the front lines.