Anjali Bansal, a leader in data culture and organizational transformation, joins Malcolm Hawker, an expert in data leadership, to dive into building a data-driven organization. They share insights from the CDOIQ Conference and humorously recount their first meeting. The conversation highlights the intersection of organizational and data culture, emphasizing collaboration as key to fostering real change. They explore success stories, like the contrast between Netflix and Blockbuster, and stress the importance of a proactive mindset towards data management.