Witold Henisz, an expert in political and social risk management from Wharton, joins Andy King, a strategist in industry self-regulation from BU Questrom, for a lively debate on the ESG movement. They discuss whether ESG can harmonize profit and planetary health, or if it's just a marketing ploy. The conversation highlights the often conflicting interests between profit motives and societal welfare, the importance of community relations in investment success, and the political backlash against ESG initiatives. Both guests emphasize the need for better regulations to enhance ESG's effectiveness.