Jennifer Pahlka, a former deputy CTO under Obama and founder of Code for America, teams up with Andrew Greenway, a co-founder of Public Digital, to discuss the intricacies of state capacity. They explore why this topic is gaining traction in the UK while addressing the U.S. government's shortcomings. The duo shares insights on transforming digital services, the impact of civil service reforms, and the pressing need for collaboration to effectively tackle unemployment insurance. Their expertise shines a light on innovative strategies for rebuilding public trust.

Jennifer Pahlka and Andrew Greenway, co-authors of a report on state capacity, dive into why improving government efficiency is crucial for 2025. They analyze America's struggles with timely shipbuilding and extensive approval processes for energy projects. The duo critiques the Biden administration's challenges in advancing infrastructure and discusses the urgent need for reforms across the political spectrum. Their insights on outsourcing in public services emphasize collaboration and highlight historical lessons for transforming governance.