Andreas Kling, a developer behind the Ladybird browser, and Chris Wanstrath, co-founder of the Ladybird Browser Initiative, discuss their ambitious project to create an independent, open-source web browser. They delve into the transition from Serenity OS and the push for user-centric development. A key focus is their incremental shift to Swift for improved performance and safety. They highlight the importance of community support, privacy features, and their goal to reshape web browsing free from corporate influences, all while sharing personal motivations and milestones along the journey.

Andreas Kling steps back from SerenityOS & forks Ladybird, Vhyrro introduces a 'static effect system', Matt Bessey is done with GraphQL, Marc-Andre Giroux still sees value in GraphQL, discussing open source app failure, AI for incident management, and persisted queries in GraphQL API development.

Guests discuss controversial iOS app incident, project forks, static effect systems in programming, evolving perspectives on GraphQL, and the significance of persisted queries in GraphQL API development

Guests discuss a rogue iOS authenticator app, Andreas Kling forks Ladybird from SerenityOS, Vhyrro explores static effect systems in programming, Matt Bessey criticizes GraphQL, and Marc-Andre Giroux still sees value in GraphQL in specific contexts.

This week we’re talking to Andreas Kling about SerenityOS and Ladybird. Andreas started SerenityOS as a means of therapy. It’s self-described as a love letter to “‘90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core.” Andreas previously worked at Nokia and later at Apple on the WebKit team, so he had an itch to do something along the lines of a browser, and that’s where Ladybird came from. We get into the details of compilers, OSs, browsers, web specifications, and the love of making software. Join the discussionChangelog++ members get a bonus 5 minutes at the end of this episode and zero ads. Join today!Sponsors:Convex – Convex is a better type of backend — the full-stack TypeScript development platform that lets you replace your database, server functions, and glue code. Get started at convex.dev Tailscale – Simple, secure networks for teams of any scale. Built on WireGuard. Fly.io – The home of Changelog.com — Deploy your apps and databases close to your users. In minutes you can run your Ruby, Go, Node, Deno, Python, or Elixir app (and databases!) all over the world. No ops required. Learn more at fly.io/changelog and check out the speedrun in their docs. Fastly – Our bandwidth partner. Fastly powers fast, secure, and scalable digital experiences. Move beyond your content delivery network to their powerful edge cloud platform. Learn more at fastly.com Featuring:Andreas Kling – Twitter, GitHub, WebsiteAdam Stacoviak – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, WebsiteJerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedInShow Notes: Sponsor Andreas’s work on GitHub Sponsors Andreas Kling on YouTube serenityOS Ladybird The Jakt programming language Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!