Emma Goldberg, a Business features writer for The New York Times, and Andra Goethe, a finance professor at the University of Utah, delve into the evolving landscape of remote work. They discuss the tension between corporate mandates and employee preferences, noting Amazon's push for a full office return by 2025. The conversation highlights the impact of hybrid models on workplace culture and productivity, as well as the unintended consequences of increased remote work on urban living and labor dynamics.