Dr. Nancy Klimas, a leading immunologist, and Dr. Ana Palacio, a clinical medicine professor, delve into the intertwined challenges of ME/CFS and Long COVID. They unpack the complex immune responses triggered by infections and environmental factors, highlighting their shared symptoms. The discussion emphasizes the need for thorough testing and inclusive healthcare approaches. Both experts advocate for better access to care, patient participation in research, and the importance of validating the experiences of those suffering from these debilitating conditions.