In this thought-provoking discussion, Amie Ichikawa, a founding member of Woman to Woman, and lesbian feminist activist joey brite tackle the controversial Dana Rivers case. They explore the implications of housing transgender individuals in women's prisons and the societal narratives surrounding this issue. The conversation highlights the emotional turmoil faced by incarcerated women and examines the broader themes of gender identity, violence, and justice in the correctional system. Their insights challenge listeners to reconsider the complexities of women's rights in today's society.