Jesse Eisinger, a renowned investigative journalist at ProPublica, and Alison Schrager, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, delve into the world of billionaire taxation. They reveal surprising strategies like 'buy, borrow, die' that let billionaires like Jeff Bezos pay less tax than average Americans. The conversation explores the ethical dilemmas faced by whistleblowers who expose such discrepancies and the ongoing debate over tax equity. Expect insights into proposed reforms and the challenging balance between wealth and responsibility in today's economy.