Alfred L. Martin, Jr., an associate professor and chair of the Department of Cinematic Arts at the University of Miami, explores the vibrant world of Black fandoms in his new work. He discusses the 'four C’s'—class, clout, canon, and comfort—revealing how these elements shape Black audiences' media experiences. The conversation dives into the interplay of joy and pain in cultural consumption, the complexity of representation, and the significance of nostalgia through beloved shows like 'The Golden Girls.' Martin advocates for centering Black narratives in fandom studies.