Dr. Alfred de Zayas, a leading authority on international law and former UN Independent Expert, discusses his book, 'Building a Just World Order.' He emphasizes the need for democratic reforms in global governance and critiques current UN practices. The conversation spans topics like the impact of World Bank policies, the need for reliable information, and accountability on issues like ecocide and torture. Dr. Zayas passionately argues for ethical politics and the urgency of a just international system, underscoring the interconnectedness of human rights and sustainable development.