Director Alexander Payne joins the podcast to discuss his film 'Holdovers' and reuniting with Paul Giamatti. The hosts also share thoughts on Disney's 'Wish', analyze Emerald Fennell's 'Saltburn' and their top five big swing movies, and explore filmmaking techniques and atmosphere in movies.

Filmmaker Alexander Payne discusses his 25+ year career, highlighting the importance of audience feedback, the success and impact of his films Citizen Ruth and Election, his admiration for 70s film stars, working with Jack Nicholson and Mike Nichols, the process of casting, and staying true to the filmmaker's creative vision.

Director Alexander Payne discusses his new film, The Holdovers, with Jason Reitman. They talk about the inspiration for the story, the lead actors' performances, and filmic inspirations. The film follows a history teacher forming bonds with students over Christmas. They also explore casting, directing actors, working with a new cinematographer, using snow in filmmaking, and self-reflection in filmmaking.