In this engaging discussion, Alex Botte, a partner at HackVC, and founder Alexander Pack, share their insights from over a decade in the crypto space. They dive into Ethereum's transition to modular architecture, analyzing its effects on market performance and price dynamics. The duo compares Ethereum's model to AWS, debates its dual role as money and utility, and explores Solana's future challenges. They also predict which Layer 1 and 2 solutions might dominate by 2025, shedding light on the evolving crypto landscape.