In this insightful conversation, Alexander Karp, Chief Scientific Officer at ETHA Natural Botanics, reveals his quest for pain relief through kratom, a natural alternative with fascinating alkaloids. Legendary skateboarder Danny Way shares his firsthand experiences, highlighting kratom's effectiveness over traditional pain meds. They discuss the pitfalls of conventional treatments, the unregulated kratom market, and the need for personal awareness in managing pain. Together, they advocate for a deeper understanding of holistic approaches to wellness.