Sepp Hochreiter, a pioneer behind the LSTM model, and Alan Akbik, an expert in NLP, dive into the fascinating world of large language models. They discuss the evolution of language models and the promising potential of XLSTMs in AI coding. The conversation highlights the advantages of LSTMs versus transformers and introduces XLCMs, emphasizing their role in generative AI. They also touch on the cultural barriers to applying AI innovations in Europe, and the balance needed between AI use and traditional academic practices.