Ajay Chenapara, National Leader for Public Sector Automation Strategy at Red Hat, joins Tony Dubiel, a Principal Specialist Solution Architect with a background in the Air Force, to discuss the complexities of automating processes in the public sector. They explore how Red Hat Ansible improves network security and service delivery. The conversation touches on career transitions into automation, the evolution of Ansible, and the unique challenges facing public agencies, all while sharing light-hearted anecdotes about memorable outages.