Aiden Salzman, co-founder of Stride Labs, and John Charbonneau, general partner of DBA, join the podcast to discuss liquid staking and modular money. They delve into topics such as the architecture of the Stride protocol, using liquid staking tokens across rollups, managing validator sets, and the demand drivers for liquid staking adoption. The conversation also touches on incentive alignment, Ethereum liquid staking, and the potential of Celeste in the liquid-staking market.