Agnès Callamard, Secretary General of Amnesty International and a notable human rights defender, joins Kenneth Cukier, Deputy Executive Editor at The Economist and technology expert, to explore the burgeoning role of AI in warfare. They delve into the ethical dilemmas posed by autonomous weapons and drone technology. The conversation highlights the challenges of accountability in military actions and the urgent need for regulatory frameworks. They also discuss the potential for AI to either enhance or complicate military decision-making, emphasizing the importance of human oversight.