In this episode, Adrianne Lenker, the lead singer of Big Thief and acclaimed solo artist, shares her journey through heartbreak and creativity. She discusses how sadness can transform into a beautiful artistic expression in her song 'Sadness As a Gift.' Lenker and co-producer Phil Weinrobe reveal the intimate and boundary-pushing recording techniques they used to capture raw emotion. They also reflect on the evolution of the song's lyrics, emphasizing the deep connections formed during collaboration and the profound complexities of love.

Guests Charlotte Day Wilson, Gustaf, and Adrianne Lenker discuss their songs 'Canopy,' 'Starting and Staring,' and 'No Machine' on this playlist. The podcast explores themes of emotional intimacy, duality, faith, and activism in their music, offering a captivating look into the artists' creative processes.

Big Thief is a four piece folk-rock band from Brooklyn, New York. In May 2019, they released their third album, U.F.O.F., to critical acclaim. Pitchfork named it “Best New Music.” In this episode, singer Adrianne Lenker and drummer James Krivchenia break down a song from that album called “Cattails.” songexploder.net/big-thief