Warren Bird, Senior Vice President of Research at ECFA, and Adelle Banks, an award-winning journalist, discuss making churches future-ready in a post-pandemic world. They dive into the surprising reasons for declining attendance, especially among younger generations. The conversation highlights the importance of evolving church leadership and fostering inclusivity to reach the 'nuns'—those without religious affiliation. They also explore innovative community engagement strategies, emphasizing collaboration over traditional pastor-centric models.