In a thought-provoking discussion, Adam Paa, a social worker and Director of Redemptive Care at The Village Church, and Summer Vinson Berger, Executive Director of Care, delve into the complexities of pastoral care. They share insights on the importance of owning past failures and rebuilding a care framework focused on humility and healing. Topics include the integration of psychology and gospel, the messy realities of recovery, and how churches can better respond to trauma. Their heartfelt advice encourages both leaders and those seeking care to embrace vulnerability and seek authentic support.