In a compelling discussion, Abdi Latif Dahir, East Africa correspondent for The New York Times, delves into Vice President Kamala Harris's recent trip to Africa aimed at countering China's influence. He highlights the geopolitical tug-of-war in Zambia, where U.S. diplomatic efforts clash with China's substantial infrastructure investments. Dahir also explores the rising discontent among Zambian youth amidst economic struggles and how African nations are navigating their relationships with global powers to assert their independence.

Declan Walsh, Chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times, and Abdi Latif Dahir, East Africa correspondent, dive into the controversial story of Paul Rusesabagina, famed for his role in the Rwandan genocide. They discuss the complexities of Rwanda's narrative, balancing heroism against authoritarianism under Kagame. The dangers faced by dissenters in today's political climate are examined, alongside Rusesabagina's precarious legal situation and the international response to his imprisonment. Insights from a jailhouse interview highlight the ongoing struggle for human rights.