In this engaging discussion, A. A. Long, a scholar of ancient philosophy, joins insights from Stoic philosopher Epictetus, renowned author George Leonard, and psychologist Gabriele Oettingen. They explore the journey to mastery and the dedication needed to achieve meaningful goals. Epictetus emphasizes controlling one’s responses amidst challenges. The conversation highlights intentional action over mere dabbling, urging listeners to assess their ambitions and commit to the sacrifices required for success.