Guests 刘洋 and 周鹏 are elite Athletes with impressive climbing accolades. They explore the intriguing balance between mental strength and physical ability in climbing, emphasizing that true ascension starts in the mind. The duo discusses the evolution and accessibility of climbing in China, stressing that anyone can enjoy the sport. They share insights on 阿式攀登, creativity in teamwork, and the importance of safety and preparation. Finally, they reflect on technology's role in connecting us with nature rather than replacing it.