The Bulwark Podcast Ben Wittes: Americans Elected a Serial Criminal to Be President
Nov 8, 2024
Ben Wittes, Editor-in-chief of Lawfare and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, dives into the chaotic landscape of Trump’s legal battles. He argues that the justice system failed democracy, as Trump's indictments seemed to enhance his appeal among supporters. The conversation also touches on the implications of judicial decisions and the erosion of democratic norms. Wittes reflects on the political ramifications of past actions, including the U.S.'s stance on Ukraine, and the emotional toll of navigating these tumultuous times.
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Trump Trials Failure
- The US criminal justice system failed to punish Trump effectively, deter future wrongdoing, or persuade voters.
- His indictments and convictions even seemed to increase his appeal among some voters.
Trials Created a Record
- Despite their failures, the Trump trials created a historical record of his alleged crimes.
- This record might be important for future generations, even if it didn't impact the election results.
Trump's Court Demeanor
- Ben Wittes observed Trump's demeanor during the New York trial, noting he had to face evidence and a judge he disliked.
- Wittes speculates this experience might be a form of accountability, even if it doesn't change future behavior.