You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes Matt Berninger #4
May 28, 2025
Matt Berninger, frontman of The National and solo artist behind the new album 'Get Sunk', shares his creative journey and insights on mental health. He discusses the emotional connections to music shaped by the pandemic and personal experiences. Matt dives into the struggles of navigating creativity and mental well-being while revealing humorous anecdotes from live performances and the art of authenticity in songwriting. The conversation also touches on spirituality and societal critiques, blending humor with profound reflections on the human experience.
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Matt's Pandemic Depression Story
- Matt Berninger shared about his deep depression during the pandemic lockdown when projects and touring stopped.
- He described insomnia as a major struggle that worsened his mental state profoundly.
Sleep as Depression Treatment
- Prioritize sleep to manage anxiety and depression as lack of sleep intensifies symptoms.
- Use sleep aids as needed but focus on establishing better sleep routines.
Depression as a Well Metaphor
- Depression feels like being trapped at the bottom of a well, unable to reach the light.
- It’s a terrifying, exhausting state despite knowing there’s hope above.
