We all need to worry about laws impinging on our right to keep our data, and specifically our phones, private. That's according to Kate Stonehill, director of new feature documentary Phantom Parrot. Jen got on the Zoom with her to talk about draconian laws, data security and what the hell a parrot has to do with any of this.

And for pudding/dessert/afters*, Mickey's chatting to Tat Effby, a woman with a dry sense of humour and moist sense of cake, who’s taking TikTok and Instagram by sweet, delicious storm as The Caketoonist. In Rated or Dated, we've big love for Walters and Caine, plus Hannah's feeling nostalgic for polyester bridesmaid dresses, as we watch 1983's Educating Rita. And in Sexism of The Week, Mickey's got bad news for women wanting a pay rise.

* you do you.

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SIM Ep 865 Pod 261: Unsafe data, moist cakes and a woman trying to better herself