Join hosts Michael, Katie, and Jason as they welcome whistleblower Jason Sands, a former military contractor with a jaw-dropping story.

In this episode, Sands opens up about his firsthand experiences with a telepathic "blue being" during a routine drive on the outskirts of Area 51-S4, offering a rare glimpse into the secretive world of classified UAP programs. From the profound aftereffects of contact—reshaping his understanding of the human "essence"—to the heavy burden of living with such knowledge, Sands shares how these encounters transformed his life.He also dives into the military’s hidden efforts, crash retrievals, and reverse-engineering projects, while rallying fellow whistleblowers to step forward in a growing push for transparency. Tune in for a great conversation that explores the intersection of extraterrestrial contact, consciousness, and the courage to speak out.

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