The Dispatch Podcast Tucker Versus MAGA | Interview: David Frum
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Jun 30, 2025 
David Frum, a staff writer at The Atlantic and host of the David Frum Show, dives into the evolving dynamics of Trump’s policies and the MAGA movement. He discusses the ongoing civil war over foreign policy following military actions in Iran and critiques the implications of Trump’s tariff policies on US-Canada relations. Frum also examines the interplay between immigration and economic prospects, while illuminating the Democratic Party's challenges. His insights shed light on the future of American politics and the complexities behind key international relationships.
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Trump's Powerful Second Term
- The Trump administration's second term is less chaotic but more deliberately dangerous.
- Trump's strike on Iran marked a decisive return of U.S. power on the global stage.
Iran Conflict Uncertain Aftermath
- It is uncertain if the Iran strikes ended the conflict or if Iran will retaliate.
- Trump weakened the U.S. counterterrorism apparatus, potentially risking a resurgence of Iranian global terrorism.
Israel Enabled Strategic Strike on Iran
- Israel effectively neutralized threats allowing a U.S. strike on Iran's nuclear program without massive civilian casualties.
- This decouples Iran’s deterrent capability like North Korea’s hostage threat to South Korea in the 1990s.