The Shawn Ryan Show I can finally talk about this...
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Jul 24, 2026 An ex-CIA/SEAL recounts real-world secure-communications tactics and why consumer privacy tools matter. He walks through building an accessible privacy app with burner numbers, secure DNS, tracker blocking, and a US-only VPN. The conversation centers on practical, easy-to-use features that stop unwanted contact and targeted tracking.
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CIA Deployment With Layered Black Phones
- Shawn Ryan recalled contracting for the CIA and operating in a permissive Middle Eastern country tracking terrorist groups.
- He described using layered "black phones" with apps inside apps for secure communications amid China, Russia, and Iran presence.
Converted $10,000 Black Phones Into An App
- Shawn Ryan found commercial black phones cost over $10,000 and wanted protection accessible to his whole team.
- He partnered with former intel and NSA-type developers to turn that capability into an app called Glacier.
Use Burner Numbers And Burn Them When Abused
- Use Glacier's burner numbers to give out disposable phone numbers and deactivate them when abused.
- Shawn explains you can pick any U.S. area code, burn a number, then pick another to sever unwanted contact.