What is “real” magic? How is magic tied to consciousness? How will magic play a role in the future of science? In this episode, Angie interviews author and Chief Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Dean Radin. Radin discusses his scientific research on mind-matter interaction, consciousness, psychic phenomenon and esoteric magic. He also shares details from his new book, Real Magic, including what scientifically-informed magic actually is and how magic will play a key role in exploring the frontiers of science.