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The Unspeakable Podcast

Artificial Intelligence For Dummies (Or At Least Normies): John Vervaeke and Shawn Coyne on Mentoring The Machines.

Feb 5, 2024
Artificial Intelligence For Dummies (Or At Least Normies): John Vervaeke, a philosopher, neuroscientist, and YouTuber, and Shawn Coyne, an editor and publishing entrepreneur, collaborate on a book series about AI. They discuss their backgrounds, the concept of AGI, the challenges of the publishing industry, alignment in programming, and the role of consciousness in intelligent behavior. A thought-provoking conversation about the implications and ethics of AI.
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  • There are different categories of artificial intelligence, including weak AI and strong AI, and within strong AI, there is specific AI and artificial general intelligence (AGI). The choice of whether to make AI self-correcting and rational or to power it up without rationality poses significant risks and requires addressing the alignment problem.
  • Understanding the different levels of consciousness, from unconsciousness to metaconsciousness, in AI can help evaluate its cognition and how it relates to caring about truth, goodness, and beauty. This understanding is crucial for guiding the development of AI systems.

Deep dives

The Thresholds of Artificial Intelligence

Artificial intelligence (AI) can be divided into weak AI, which solves problems humans used to do, and strong AI, which would create machines capable of genuine intelligence. Strong AI can be categorized into specific AI that solves problems within limited domains, and artificial general intelligence (AGI) that can solve a wide range of problems. While current AI systems show intelligence, they lack rationality and the ability to care about truth, goodness, and beauty. A threshold decision is approaching where we must choose whether to make AI self-correcting and rational or simply power it up without rationality. Each choice poses significant risks, and the alignment problem of ensuring AI is aligned with human flourishing must be addressed.

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