Julian Dorey Podcast

#366 - Secrets of the Freemasons, “Godfather” of Occultism & Epstein’s Strange Emails | Mark Gagnon

Dec 16, 2025
In this lively conversation, comedian Mark Gagnon, known for his sharp cultural commentary and deep dives into history and conspiracies, discusses a range of tantalizing topics. He shares childhood tales of being homeschooled by a conspiracy-minded mother, revealing an early fascination with the Freemasons and Epstein's controversial connections. The duo also delves into Aleister Crowley’s occult practices and his bizarre influence on rocket science. Expect witty takes on politics, current events, and how conspiracies can shape cultural narratives.
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ANECDOTE

Epstein Texts During Congressional Hearing

  • They play the Washington Post clip where Stacey Plaskett texts Jeffrey Epstein during a hearing and then asks the same question live.
  • Mark and Julian mock the coordination and Plaskett's subsequent censure vote that failed.
ANECDOTE

Raised On Conspiracy Lore

  • Mark Gagnon recounts being raised by a mother deeply into conspiracy theories and Building 7 claims.
  • He says her early influence turned him into a “classically trained conspiracy theorist.”
INSIGHT

Conspiracy Claims Can Become Mainstream

  • Mark and Julian note increasing public reassessment of 9/11 narratives by victims' families and commentators.
  • They argue mainstream narratives can shift over time as new scrutiny emerges.
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