Sarah Baxter and Barbara F Walter discuss the possibility of civil war in America due to rising militia memberships and ideological divides. They explore the implications of widespread gun ownership, weak democracy, and increasing far-right threats. The podcast highlights the urgent need for unity and democracy strengthening amidst escalating tensions.
Growing militia memberships and demographic shifts could fuel a civil war in the US.
Strengthening democracy and bridging political divides are crucial to prevent further civil unrest.
Deep dives
America on the Brink of a Civil War
In the podcast episode, the host discusses the portrayal of America on the brink of a civil war in a new film. The narrative describes a scenario where the United States faces a significant internal conflict, showing an apocalyptic sight with the White House and Lincoln Memorial under attack. The discussion delves into the political tensions, division, and violence that have escalated, drawing parallels to the real-world events surrounding the Capitol riot on January 6th.
Roots of Civil War in America
The conversation with Barbara F. Walter highlights the factors that could spark a civil war in America. Barbara explains that civil wars are often initiated by groups in decline, resentful of power loss. In the American context, she points out the demographic shift towards a more diverse population and the challenges faced by groups feeling disenfranchised. She predicts that any civil war in the country would likely manifest as an insurgency involving multiple militias using unconventional tactics.
Future Instability and Transition in America
Barbara F. Walter expresses concerns about future instability in America, estimating a potential 10 to 20 years of rocky transition. She emphasizes the need for America to address its democratic weaknesses and divisive political landscape. The discussion underscores the importance of strengthening democracy, bridging divides, and navigating the societal transitions to avoid a potential escalation towards further civil unrest.
The prospect of internal conflict, as depicted in Alex Garland’s new film ‘Civil War’, is no longer regarded as an impossibility in America. With millions of guns in circulation, militia membership on the rise, and citizens relocating along ideological lines, could the US descend into a new civil war?
Guests:
Sarah Baxter, Director of the Marie Colvin Center for International Reporting.
Barbara F Walter, Rohr Professor of International Affairs at the School of Global Policy and Strategy at the University of California in San Diego.