What About Romans 13... Joyful Non-Compliance: Faith in Action Today

Jun 23, 2025

Explore the concept of "joyful non-compliance" as it relates to faith and societal issues. The dialogue delves into the intersection of theology and American policy, particularly regarding immigration and the implications of governance. Through reflections on Romans 13, the hosts encourage deeper engagement with scripture while addressing injustices. They also unpack the nuances of joy versus superficial happiness and the importance of peacemaking. This engaging conversation challenges listeners to consider how to embody faith in action amid cultural turmoil.

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Understanding True Joy

Joy is distinct from happiness and optimism; it's a settled state regardless of external outcomes.
Mike Erre connects joy to a social reality of grace and trust beyond mere feelings.

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Fruits as Social Realities

The fruits of the Spirit describe social realities, not just internal emotions.
True love, joy, and peace manifest as active community engagement and trust beyond personal feelings.

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Theology Impacts Foreign Policy

American foreign policy sometimes mistakenly uses dispensational theology to uncritically support Israel.
Mike Erre distinguishes between supporting Israel the nation and its government policies.

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What does "Joyful Non-Compliance" look like in today’s world? In this thought-provoking episode, the hosts explore how faith intersects with politics, justice, and cultural challenges. Diving into Romans 12 and 13, they discuss the biblical posture of joyful, peaceful non-compliance, emphasizing the church's role in society as a force of love, justice, and truth. From the complexities of navigating immigration issues to the tension between idolatry and injustice in government, this conversation unpacks what it means to live out cruciformity—a life shaped by the cross—in a chaotic world.

Key insights include the distinction between peacekeeping and peacemaking, the theological implications of governance, and how Christians can embody a faithful, socially engaged presence amidst cultural turmoil. With practical examples and a deep dive into the text, the hosts challenge listeners to embrace a countercultural, Jesus-centered response to injustice and idolatry.

Join the discussion and share your thoughts! How can we, as individuals and communities, live out this call to justice and non-compliance with humility and hope? Feel free to email questions or engage with us on Facebook and Instagram—we encourage and value your perspectives as we pursue this journey together. Let’s continue the conversation about faith, justice, and the transformative power of the gospel.

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00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates 02:58 Exploring Joy and Grief 05:57 Understanding Joyful Noncompliance 08:59 The Role of Theology in Current Events 11:54 Recent Global Events and Their Implications 14:51 Theological Perspectives on Israel and Foreign Policy 18:00 Immigration Policies and Their Impact 20:49 Non-Compliance and Moral Responsibility 23:39 Romans 13 and Its Application 31:47 The Application of Romans 13 39:27 The Role of Government in Society 46:08 The Relationship Between Romans 12 and 13 56:16 Peacemaking in a Divided World

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