The Duran Podcast Bizarre negotiations and intel back channels
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Dec 1, 2025 This discussion dives into the twists and turns of US-Ukrainian diplomacy in Florida, highlighting key attendees like Rubio and Kushner. The conversation reveals Umerov's controversial rise amidst corruption issues and Ukraine's firm stance against NATO neutrality. Tensions grow as they explore intelligence-heavy delegations and Budanov's secretive backchannel with Russia. The interplay of political theater and real negotiations raises questions about US influence in Ukraine. Can genuine dialogue emerge from these intricate maneuvers?
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Diplomacy As Theater
- The US-led talks with Ukraine in Miami looked like theater rather than genuine negotiation.
- Patrick Henningsen and Alexander Christoforou argue the US could force Ukraine to accept terms but instead stages consultations.
Intelligence-Led Ukrainian Team
- The Miami delegation was dominated by Ukrainian intelligence figures, not diplomats.
- Alexander Christoforou notes this odd makeup suggests influence of Kyiv's security services in negotiations.
Why The US Consults Ukraine
- The US could negotiate directly with Russia and compel Ukraine by cutting aid.
- Patrick argues consulting Kyiv and Europe weakens US negotiating leverage and allows spoilers.